
We present here multi-spacecraft data of relativistic electron losses in the outer radiation belt from missions such as LANL GPS and HEO, and compare those to low-altitude measurements of precipitating electrons from missions such as NOAA-POES and SAMPEX, concentrating on the region near L=4, in the heart of the outer zone. Data from GPS indicates that magnetopause shadowing cannot account for the losses seen at L=4, while NOAA-POES data shows little or no enhancement of precipitation for electrons with energies greater than 100 keV, and then mostly at storm onset in MLT sectors from 01 to 14 hours.
We will speculate on some of the possible loss mechanisms that may be operating. Relativistic electron microbursts seen by SAMPEX can be associated with some loss measurements, indicating strong pitch angle scattering into the loss cone, while recent simultaneous measurements from POLAR and CLUSTER may indicate local de-trapping of energetic electrons.